Some Work, All Play

We celebrated a week with minimal life drama (YAY) before recording this great episode! The main training topic was a new study monitoring response v. non-response. Imagine two similar athletes who are given the the same training program. One could have breakthroughs, and one could face physical disaster. Why? We use the study to talk[...]

We got the surprise of our lives before recording this dazed-and-excited episode! The main topic was the Canyons 100k. It was Megan's dream race, and you may have seen... she did not start. We had some incredibly surprising news right before we boarded our flight to California for the race, and we process it in[...]

We sipped on some of the finest, chalkiest electrolyte drink for this great episode! The main topic was gearing up for big events, spurred by Megan's upcoming adventure at the Canyons 100k. After the health issues, we were unsure whether we'd ever be able to have this sort of discussion on the podcast, and listeners[...]

We got extremely hyped watching the Boston Marathon before recording this amazing episode! The main training topic was a new study connecting carb intake during exercise to reduced central fatigue, leading to the researchers theorizing a link between "excess" carbs and improved neuromuscular function. The study protocol was weird and wild! Does this mean we[...]

We enjoyed an all-expenses-paid ambulance trip before this amazing episode! The main topic was David's harrowing bike crash. The incredible paramedics said that the impact launched him 100 feet through the air. Somehow, the concussion, a broken wrist, and lacerations seem to be the worst of it. The legs are 100%! And as all runners[...]

It's the 200th episode, and we brought so much gratitude to the party! The main topic was reflecting on 5 ways our approach to endurance training/coaching has changed, based on new research and real-world experience. The topics buffet is packed with goodness: extreme-carb fueling during hard efforts, heavier strength work (in moderation), less need for[...]

We rode the inspiration wave from witnessing history for this great episode! The main topic was on the mind-boggling finish from Jasmin Paris at the Barkley Marathons. She is the first woman to finish the race, and we think it will go down as one of the most impressive endurance achievements ever. We break down[...]

We vibed with a new playlist (Taylor's version) before this great episode! The main training topic was a new study on fatigue resistance, which used a novel protocol for testing durability involving different levels of intensity. "Durability" research may be the most exciting part of modern performance science, and we broaden it out with real-world[...]

We made questionable playlist decisions (arf arf) to get hyped for this amazing episode! The big topic was Lululemon's FURTHER event, a 6-day ultra in the California desert, full of intrigue and world records. Megan was on the ground as coach and science advisor, and she returns with a report that will blow your minds.[...]

We ate some business PB+Js to fuel up for this great episode! The main training topic was on fueling like your athletic life depends on it. Erase all of your preconceived notions and ask this question: When you're already tired and you're still a couple hours away from home, what do you do? If you're[...]

We put on some see-through pants for this great episode! The main training topic was on double workouts, involving two moderate sessions in a single day. Norwegian athletes are notorious for their double threshold days, and over the last few years, we have been using an adapted approach with the treadmill or cross-training that can[...]

We glugged some sugar with coffee and cream for this awesome episode! The main training topic was a new study breaking down the training of the 24-hour world-record holder. It gave us an excuse to talk about the trajectory of ultra training, and how we're in the midst of a fundamental shift in the sport[...]

We just got back from a joyful and intense weekend at the Black Canyon 100k, arguably the most competitive ultra on US soil! Endurance sports are in the midst of a fundamental shift in what's possible, from the winners to the final finishers. This year's Black Canyon was a mind-blowing demonstration of how the game[...]

It was the ultimate celebration episode, on a high from watching the Olympic Marathon Trials! We talked about some of our favorite storylines from the most exciting race on US soil: training partners finishing together (and our conspiracy theory), the next big star is born for female marathoners, an Olympian who walked onto her D2[...]

We rolled up our shorts to their full upright and locked positions for this spicy episode! A big topic was the final installment in our trilogy of updates on tensions surrounding UTMB. The letter sent by Kilian Jornet and Zach Miller to fellow pros added fuel to a fire that started at the grassroots level,[...]

We chugged some chocolate whole milk to fuel this amazing episode! The main training topic was on why testosterone levels are relevant for all endurance athletes. While individuals have different genetic set-points for testosterone, studies on men and women show that training and fueling interventions can change baseline levels. Those changes can be positive, leading[...]

We had fire (and iron) flowing through our veins for this awesome episode! There is a big development in the UTMB controversy: reports that legends Kilian Jornet and Zach Miller sent a letter to some of the best athletes in the world considering a boycott of this year's races. We talk about what we think[...]

We ate the world's largest lunches to get ready for this awesome episode! The main training discussion was on tempo running. What even is a tempo? Coaches and physiologists all disagree, leaving athletes in an uncertain spot. We cut through the noise with the help of a 2019 study looking at what training elements most[...]

We are coming in hot with some big 2024 energy! The main topic was a deeper science corner breakdown of the new study that challenges conventional wisdom on protein consumption. This research could change how you think about daily fueling, with potential benefits for adaptation and recovery. We geek out on the methodology, featuring an[...]

Welcome to a very special holiday episode! We started with our thoughts on a new study on protein intake that challenges everything we previously thought about protein metabolism. It's one of our favorite studies of all time, and it's destined to reshape the field of nutrition science! But the bulk of the episode was reading[...]

We brought some big-time celebration vibes for this holiday episode! The main training topic was on the body of literature connecting strength work to running economy improvements. Wherever you look, there seem to be agreements mixed with contradictions, and we sprinkle some spicy controversy flakes on top of it all. Our take? Endurance athletes should[...]

We loaded up on some fish candy to bring you an awesome episode! The first study of the day blew our minds, showing that just a few weeks of high-dose Omega 3 supplementation reduced some markers of heart stress after steep downhill running. We used to think that Omega 3 pills were boring, and now[...]

It's one of our all-time favorite episodes after a whirlwind week! The main topic was David's race at the McDowell Mountain 50 Miler, which we use to talk about a ton of different lessons for training and racing. We're talking pre-race meals, pacing, dealing with cramps, what comes after "failure," fueling and hydration, pacing, and[...]

We turned the hype meters to 11 for this awesome episode! The main training topic was on the wild, uncertain science of post-exercise ketone supplementation. We take you into the cutting-edge of this emerging field of research, like a Magic Schoolbus for the scientific method. Ketone bodies are naturally produced after exercise, an evolutionary mechanism[...]

We brought some big-time gratitude to this supersized Thanksgiving episode! The main topic was a new study looking at how fueling during training impacts next-day performance and protein degradation. We are seeing a new world order in eating and training! We also present some contrasting perspectives from prominent coaches, trying to discern between data and[...]

We were extra carb-loaded for this awesome episode! The main training topic was on a new study looking at how strength work changes muscle fiber properties over time. Strength training seemed to reverse the aging clock! We dig into the nuances of what it means and how to apply the findings for endurance athletes of[...]

Our brain juices were really flowing on this great episode! The main story came from the pro peloton in cycling, where athletes are pushing the limits of carbohydrate consumption during hard races. In general, teams closely monitor fueling to get athletes to 100-120 grams of carbs per hour (400-480 calories), and there are hints that[...]

We put on some dinosaur onesies (our business formal) for this awesome Halloween episode! The big discussion was on UTMB's controversial announcement of a new race in Whistler, Canada, on the same weekend as the now-discontinued, grassroots race called Whistler Alpine Meadows. UTMB rode the sport's wave of exponential growth, gobbling up races to incorporate[...]

We brought some Big Party Energy to this great episode! The main discussion revolved around different ways we put research into practice. This weekend, David had one of his best races ever at the Blue Sky Marathon, and we adventure to the coolest edges of the science to tell you what we are trying! That[...]

We ate a truly stunning amount of chicken and milkshakes to fuel this great episode! The main training topic was on a new review article connecting hemoglobin levels and VO2 max. Across nearly 400 studies, these variables have a strong statistical correlation. Blood volume could be primary a driver of performance, and we break down[...]

We brought some A+ brain energy and some C+ heart efficiency to this awesome episode! The main topics involved the extremely eventful weeks in the running world. On the joyous side, the Chicago Marathon was a race for the history books, with a new world record and blazing fast times from US runners. We celebrate[...]

You want the best podcast vibes? Because that's what you get on this episode, with some 4 AM recording energy. Why were we recording at 4 AM? For the love of the game! The main training topic was answering a listener question about what excites us most right now in coaching and theory. We delve[...]

The vibes were STRONG in this episode, even though the ankles were WEAK. It started off with a fun recap of the Grindstone 100k. What happens when an entire season is built around a goal, but it all ends in some delicious failure? Setbacks can be good for the soul, in moderation. In that way,[...]

This episode is one of the coolest moments of our lives: interviewing Jim Walmsley! We met Jim way back in 2016, and since then, we have been two of his biggest fans. Reconnecting more than 7 years later after his course record triumph at UTMB was such a joy. Jim opened up about everything around[...]

We brought joy and so many spike proteins to this episode! The main training topic was on post-UTMB reflections about lower volume, higher energy training from the incredible Leah Yingling. You don't need to hammer your body to have success! We discuss why endurance training should uplift feeling good as a proxy for adaptation over[...]

This very special episode is coming to you from Chamonix, right after the finish of the UTMB races! We were all around the courses, screaming until our voices gave out, gathering up all the inspiration from the incredible athletes. Our goal is to transport you to France with us for the most historic year ever![...]

We traveled halfway around the world to bring you this very special episode from Chamonix, France, the site of the UTMB races later this week! Our sleep is low, but our spirits are high. The main topic was on initial reflections on European racing and UTMB later this week. Our biggest prediction is that North[...]

We had a blast on this episode talking about some of our favorite topics! The main discussion was on takeaways from a magical Leadville 100 Miler. Jacquie Mannhard's breakthrough win came from shockingly low training volume (often under 45 miles per week) and we break down some lessons from her journey. At the finish, she[...]

This episode was a total joy talking about food, brains, and training! The main discussion was on a term sent in by a listener: "food doping." Endurance sports are being revolutionized by a focus on high fueling levels during activity. Some cyclists consume up to 600 calories per hour in hard races! In the process,[...]

We brought full hearts and clear nasal passages to this awesome episode! The main training topic was on the gargantuan Strava files of athletes preparing for the UTMB races. We zoom out to talk about multi-year growth, a study on speed and ultra performance, and the balance between long-term health and short-term performance. Health and[...]

The theme of this episode: we are all powerful dump trucks! The main training discussion was on a new study looking at how strength work may help (or hurt) mitochondria adaptations. This study had wildly unexpected results, just like we like them! We also talked about our experience with sweat testing and some of the[...]

We came into this episode with so much excitement to talk about some of our favorite topics! This week's main discussion was on a new study examining the cellular-level effects of chronic stress. We zoom out from the biology of stress to talk about what it may mean for training. If you play your cards[...]

We brought hearts full of love and legs full of toxic waste to this episode! Our main discussion was a big breakdown of science-driven lessons that we try to put into practice with racing. Megan is BACK, winning and crashing the overall podium at a tough mountain 25k! We talk about the science of pre-race[...]

This episode was one of our favorites ever! The main discussion was on stories from the US Track Championships, and lessons that can apply to all athletes. Even if you don't follow track, we think you'll come away from this discussion ready to shoot the scariest shots. Believe! We also talked about some of the[...]

We put on our party super-shoes on for this joyful episode! The main discussion was on a new study on the evolution of world-class endurance training. We dig into researcher predictions before providing a bunch of predictions of our own. How will new tools and wearables change the game? What about artificial intelligence? Can AI[...]

WOW, we just witnessed a Western States 100 that may change how ultras are run forever! We recorded this episode right after spending all day and night coaching and cheering at the race, so our voices are wavering, but our excitement is UNSTOPPABLE. We couldn't wait to tell you everything about the event, focusing on[...]

We had a party on this episode with so many fun topics! Training discussions were mixed in throughout, like chocolate chips in a BIG cookie. That included how to mix intensity-controlled intervals with harder VO2 work, uphill running form (lean forward!), the importance of threshold and critical speed in all events, and what happens when[...]

We brought a heaping helping of excitement to this episode to celebrate the most wonderful time of the running year! The main discussion was on the 2023 World Championships for trail and ultra-running. We break down the storylines, including an analysis of race tactics and training for WORLD CHAMPION Grayson Murphy. The courses were absolutely[...]

This episode was the most fun ever, perfect timing for the 3-YEAR PODCAST ANNIVERSARY! The main training topic was on what it means to dream big, and why it matters for physiology as much as it does for the brain. Our exploration of the dream-big topic navigated through our own journeys (including our plans with[...]

We filled our wine glasses with protein powder for our favorite day of the week: PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on how athletes can think about strength work. It's an area where our coaching approach has evolved over time based on how we have seen the research interact with real-world performance! Should you[...]

We woke up before sunrise like it was Christmas morning for our favorite day of the week: PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on simple tips to improve technical running, and how the principles of thinking about form on difficult terrain can also improve health and performance on roads. After this episode, you'll believe[...]

It's getting hot in here, so we took off most of our clothes for PODCAST TUESDAY! The main training topic was on a new review study looking at all of the research on long-term training approaches. What works? What doesn't? On a scale of 0 to infinity, how much ice cream should you be eating?[...]

We are so excited for this episode where we got to party with one of our favorite people: Grayson Murphy. She was fresh off a double national championship, winning the U.S. Uphill Champs on one day, followed by the U.S. Mountain Champs the next day, both in dominant fashion. In a few short years, she[...]

We did a happy dance for the most wonderful day of the week: Podcast Tuesday! The main discussion was on fun takeaways from racing the Canyons 100k. David stepped up into the unknown and was 5th place! But what made the day really special was hitting a low point when it seemed impossible, and finding[...]

We put our party hats on for the ultimate celebration: Podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on lactate shuttles in the body, and the connection between lactate and fatigue at all intensity levels. It's so fascinating how this molecule connects what we all feel during training, from a professional athlete to someone who is[...]

We turned our happiness meters to 100 for our favorite day: Podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on the science of gut training. The stomach needs to be trained in a methodical way just like the aerobic system, but people rarely talk about how much this part of training theory plays a role in[...]

The most exciting time of our week is here: podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on the trend of increasing carbohydrate intake during activity, sometimes to extreme levels around 120 grams per hour (480 calories!). We review some of the science of how glycogen levels relate to fatigue processes, along with GI considerations and[...]

The most fun time of our week is here: podcast Tuesday! The main training topic was on Zone 2, focusing on what it is and how to find it for yourself. If you're anything like us, understanding the metabolic and aerobic physiology will explain so much about training theory, and you'll get way faster in[...]

We brought a jubilant energy to this episode, countering a lack of sleep with a surplus of caffeinated gels! The main training topic was on overload training blocks, which consist consist of volume and/or intensity increases that last anywhere from a couple days to multiple weeks. We review some fascinating studies indicating that overloads may[...]

This episode was full of Spring joy! The main training topic was on 4 key principles as athletes transition from winter training, which apply anytime an athlete is pursuing peak performance. The primary physiological discussions: how increased climbing affects adaptation and fatigue, heat acclimation and fitness benefits, sustainable strength work, and dialing into effort instead[...]

It was such a joy to talk to one of our heroes, Joe Gray! Over his legendary career, Joe has won 22 US National Championships across mountain running, trail running, and cross country. Plus 9 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS! He is one of the best mountain runners of all time, with a legacy of sustained dominance that[...]

This episode got down and dirty with the most fun topics! The main training topic was on a new narrative review study describing the evolution of training theory, and why different approaches have converged on the benefits of lower-intensity training with relatively high doses of moderate threshold running, plus VO2-style speed in small doses. Figure[...]

We had SO MUCH FUN talking to Lauren Fleshman! Her book "Good For A Girl" just debuted as a New York Times Bestseller, and we think it's one of the best books ever written. The book is part-memoir, part-manifesto, fearlessly confronting cultural problems in running and beyond, while also being a beautiful and funny reflection[...]

This week's episode is jam-packed with happiness and fun! The main training topic was on 2 workouts that could have outsized benefits for lactate clearance and performance at every distance. The first workout is SO HOT right now: double thresholds, popularized by Norwegian training systems. The second is not quite as hot, but no less[...]

This week's VERY SPECIAL episode was a pure celebration! We didn't want to stop recording, so there are a few more minutes of fun. The main training topic was an exploration of why athletes are getting faster at every distance. Our theories involve converging training approaches, feedback processes from shoe technology, and an emphasis on[...]

We had such a life-affirming interview with one of our all-time heroes, Kara Goucher! Kara became famous as one of the best runners in the world, winning 3 national championships in college, a silver medal in the 10k at the World Championships, and making 2 Olympic teams. But the running accolades are just the start[...]

This week's episode was such a fun romp! The main training topic involved the often-overlooked variable of hemoglobin mass, and how optimizing hemoglobin levels for your individual genetics could help you bring out your inner aerobic monster. Important considerations: training intensity/stress, nutrition, iron intake, and oxygen stress like altitude... plus some wild new science on[...]

This week’s episode was a total joy ride! The main training topic involved how underperformance is linked with reduced adaptation rates, with possible connections to endocrine system responses. That has major implications for how we approach training and life stress, plus eating before and after runs! We also talked about how to approximate heart rate[...]

This week's episode was such a joyful treat! The main training topic involved understanding training intensity in the context of heart rate drift, where the heart rate rises across an activity. That's especially important for improving aerobic threshold over time, a key to performance at all distances! We also talked about our new FAVORITE STUDY[...]

This episode was such a joyous (and loving) way to kick off 2023! The main training topic addressed one of the toughest and most important questions for all endurance training: what does "easy" actually mean in practice? The answer is nuanced, diving into athlete background, physiology, and goals. Athletes who figure out how to live[...]

We had the most fun and inspiring interview with one of our best friends in the whole world, Amelia Boone! Amelia is a world-class athlete with 4 world championships in obstacle course racing, a recent win at the Spartan Trail 100k World Championships, and numerous other accomplishments. Those accolades led to magazine covers and a[...]

The 2022 celebration episode brought all of the joy! We started with a holiday recap, including a burst-pipe adventure and a VERY IMPORTANT digression about vibrators. This week's big training tip involves a stunning study on self-talk, showing downright bonkers results. Other topics: the ULTIMATE  top-10 list for 2022 (we promise that it is vaguely[...]

This episode brought the science and the FUN! We started with an overview of studies on penalty kicks, leading to a broader discussion on managing pressure over time in sports and life. It's all about shooting those shots, with openness and vulnerability! This week's big training tip is on encouraging adaptation through a training framework[...]

We had a fantastic, life-changing interview with one of our heroes, Alex Honnold! You probably know Alex from the movie Free Solo, which documented his climb of El Capitan in Yosemite, possibly the most historic athletic achievement ever. But did you know that Alex is also a runner, recently completing a 50k, with plans for[...]

This episode had it all, with some of the most fun training and life topics! We kicked it off with a training discussion that could improve your form and strength FOREVER... and it involves barefoot running. We are not ashamed to speak our barefoot running truth! The main training discussion is on a new study[...]

This episode was a total treat, getting to talk about some of the best topics! We started with the ONE FORM TIP THAT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE... maybe. It involves your glutes, so that has to be good. The main discussion is on 5 takeaways from World Champ Adam Peterman's training that can apply to[...]

We got to have a joyous, wide-ranging interview with the athlete who has quietly had one of the greatest running seasons ever, Adam Peterman! He is so kind, funny, and gracious, and we can't wait for you to get to know him in a deeper way during this episode. Adam's last year of racing has[...]

It's the ultimate celebration episode, full of fun training and life talk! We started with a joyful reflection about navigating through the dark forests in life, and how the path that starts out broken and sad can evolve in ways you never imagine (like with a FREAKING BABY). Then we hit on a bunch of[...]

Today's episode is such a fun discussion of cool training ideas, mental health rollercoasters, and life swerves! The main discussion is on 8 takeaways from Courtney Dauwalter's training to become the best in the world, collected from our interview with her and every other source we could get our hands on. We provide an analysis[...]

This episode explores the science and theory behind one of the most exciting training approaches in the world! Some athletes from Norway are using variations of intensity-controlled threshold training, double-workouts, and focused specific work to great success on the international stage. While the specifics of the Norwegian approach to endurance training may not apply to[...]

We considered an ABBB tattoo ("Always Be Base Building") before a joyous episode on the importance of aerobic reinforcement, debates about gear choices, and existential questions about running! The main topics: the difference between offseason and base-building, why aerobic base needs to be a year-round focus, how to include speed development both before and during[...]

We ate a pint of snickerdoodle ice cream to prepare for a fun episode on tapering, racing, and fueling! The main topics: wild taper approaches from elite athletes involving very long runs relatively close to race day, why tapers vary and what that might mean for your next race, muscle fiber typology during training and[...]

We got to interview the brilliant, kind, and HILARIOUS Courtney Dauwalter! Courtney has won UTMB twice, the Hardrock 100, the Western States 100, and established herself as an absolute force of nature that transcends running. In this episode, we dug deep on her training theory, from weekly mileage to workouts to rest days. But even[...]

We got VERY EXCITED about enchiladas before an invigorating episode on training and intrinsic motivation! The main topics: 3 marathon training principles that apply to all endurance runners, the magic of long runs that build aerobic lipidic power, 4 follow-up discussions about Eliud Kipchoge's training before setting the world record, recent studies on why process-motivation[...]

We listened to some very, VERY fun audio recordings before a joyous episode on growth and training theory! The main discussion is on Eliud Kipchoge's training, using a mix of sources to come up with 6 lessons for everyone. Zone 1 easy running, controlled workouts around 80% capacity, high (but not wild) volume, long runs[...]

We embraced the pizza underwear process before having such a fun episode with lots of training and life topics! The big training discussion revolved around 10 reactions to the approach that Kilian Jornet used to become the GOAT. Get ready for a buffet of the hottest training takes on: doubles, the theory of long runs[...]

In one of the most exciting moments of our lives, we sat down with Kilian Jornet, aka the GREATEST OF ALL TIME. Kilian is the winner of almost every major race around the world, most recently UTMB and the Hardrock 100 just four weeks apart. He's also a dad of two and a founder of[...]

We are coming to you with HEALTHY HEART SWAG to talk about Kilian Jornet's training snapshot leading up to his course record at UTMB, training intensity zones and what they mean, how to think about heart rate principles even if you don't use a heart rate monitor, Nico Young's amazing strength, the connection between emotional[...]

We got naked in a creek before talking about 9 thoughts from the UTMB races, Kilian Jornet's historic summer and how unthinkably incredible he is, the importance of understanding iron intake for athletes, a checklist to address fatigue, the Manti Te'o documentary and the power of forgiveness, follow-ups to the Clare Gallagher interview, and the[...]

It's our first interview ever, with our favorite human and athlete in the world! Clare Gallagher won the 2022 Leadville 100 Miler in the 5th-fastest time ever just 36 hours before we recorded the interview. A historic 100 mile win and a 75-minute podcast episode are both equal feats of endurance in our eyes. Clare[...]

Surprise bonus episode! On Patreon, we are doing weekly episodes where we answer (mostly) training questions from subscribers, and we wanted to release this week's to everyone to say THANK YOU ALL. We said the word "sexy" way too many times... or just the right number of times.  Topics this week: the "why" behind different[...]

We conquered the 7-year itch before talking about how we are constantly testing new interventions (ankle weight warm-ups?!), electrolyte consumption during exercise, the interesting offset between literature and practice with salt intake, the science of cooling interventions and how they can lead to 5%+ performance improvements even in temperate conditions, thoughts about the 2022 UTMB[...]

We did it all for the nookie before talking about the evolution of our training theory about output at VO2 max being a key indicator of aging and long-term performance in athletes, why mechanical power output is often under-appreciated in running training, the weird science of glucose tolerance tests, wonderful news out of Kansas, the[...]

We debated the performance enhancing benefits of potato chips before talking about the importance of understanding load capacity in training and life, why competitive exercise might have some darker mental consequences for some people, how love and fear are intertwined for better and for worse, the foods of the week, 3 ways to anticipate responses[...]

We did bathroom mirror glute squeezes before talking about fun ways to understand exercise physiology terms, why pro cycling is the world's greatest endurance experiment (even for runners), 8 performance science takeaways from the Tour de France, fears about doping in cycling (and other sports), book recommendations (Broken Horses and Win At All Costs), a[...]

We got really, really excited by astronomy before talking about the historic performances at the Hardrock 100 Miler, physiology that people might not think about enough in high-altitude racing, stories from the World Championships, Devon Allen's infuriating DQ due to a false start, how to think about training for long-term growth, the TV show "The[...]

We put on some sexy white spandex shorts before talking about the different workouts we'd recommend if an athlete could only do one, our favorite sessions and the rationale for different workout types (tempo, long intervals, short intervals, and hills), whether we'll ever understand what cryptocurrency actually is, the incredible movie Everything Everywhere All At[...]

We overcame an acute case of over-stoke syndrome before talking about the wildest race in the world, how Mount Marathon breaks algorithms and ankles, the incredible stories of Tabor and Eli Hemming, a recap of the US Mountain Championships, how to think about "pain" in the context of training, a full review of 9 different[...]

We took some hardcore grass naps before talking about 13 things we learned at the Western States 100 Miler! That includes the booming media coverage, Adam Peterman becoming a PeterGOD, theories for why the times are so fast, and much more. Plus we do some deeper dives into the exciting world of mid-event cooling techniques[...]

This week, we are bringing our BONUS Patreon episode to everyone to highlight some sexy science! Megan was just named the Western States Research Co-Director, and our celebration is to bring you some research updates in hot-tub conversation format. We start with reviewing two fascinating talks at the medical conference on hyponatremia/hydration and how the[...]

We got really, really excited about Olympic Valley before talking about takeaways from the Broken Arrow skyraces, the complexity of races that reward VO2 max, how training for other sports can support running (but how that might also hide the true performance drivers), 6 tips for dealing with pre-race anxiety, 4 narratives around the Western[...]

We dodged an angry moose before dedicating almost the whole episode to one of our favorite events of the year: The Western States 100! Whether you care about this race or not, we hope to convey big enthusiasm, bigger science, and even bigger subjective opinions. It was so much fun to break down wild ultra[...]

We witnessed some real-life Twitter beefs before talking about 3 things we learned at the American College of Sports Medicine conference, data periodization and how to maintain joy while learning more about your body, athletics before GPS, our love/hate list for hydration products, a new study on increasing easy volume versus adding hard intensity, recent[...]

We started the Cha Cha Challenge before talking about training for the unique challenges of European racing, more shoe reviews, being an introvert at professional conferences, why all clothes should be maternity fit, how stride workouts can spur progression across decades of serious training, follow-ups on vegetarianism, some problems with UTMB's doping policies, and the[...]

We optimized our nasal breathing before giving you our HONEST feelings on different shoe brands and models, the cool science of minimal-dose strength work, the quirks of Vitamin D science, and fueling follow-ups. We then provide an overview of the changing media landscape, including recent layoffs and changes in publishing models, and what that might[...]

We did some titillating at-home chiropractic adjustments before talking about the variance in what constitutes good hydration for different athletes (and how extreme approaches can work for heavy sweaters), carb love and the power of Peanut Butter Puffins, our favorite recent TV shows, shoe science and the murky understanding of impact forces, body/brain chemistry and[...]

We tanned our private parts for the hormone boost before talking about extreme race fueling approaches of 400-500+ calories per hour and how they might work for some athletes, extreme races like the Cocodona 250, training for ultras where the association between speed and performance fall away, John Kelly's historic Wainwrights FKT, heat training, influencers[...]

We channeled our BIGGEST WET FOOD ENERGY to joyfully reflect on the 100th episode of the podcast! What a journey! This is a love letter to our listeners... and to new adventures. You know how TV shows save something big for the season finale? We did that for the 100th episode. Tune in and find[...]

We made SO MANY PHONE CALLS before talking about the wildly cool and striking science on how much pre-race and during-race carb intake correlates with performance, what the literature says about how to fuel before and during events, the incredible racing at the Canyons 100k, the importance of women in coaching, inspiration from Leah Yingling,[...]

We went full BUBBLES before talking about some takeaways from the Boston Marathon, training theory evolution in the Strava age, a preview of the STACKED Canyons 100k, sexy science on variables that predict trail running performance, why peak velocity might correlate with success even in very long races, satisfaction bombs and the importance of big[...]

We had a pepperoni pizza foodgasm before talking about dreaming big in athletics and life, the delightful inevitability of failure, an amazing new study on the training of world-class distance runners, easy running guidelines, tapers, and empathy. Plus asides on BOTH fox mating and raptor mating, so things are getting freaky in the animal kingdom.[...]

We rocked some very teal, very tight spandex to talk about stories from the Gorge 100k and 50k (highlighted by some amazingly fun breakthroughs!), great health news for Megan's heart, athletics as an opportunity to shine your light with FULL LUMINOSITY, Jerrod Carmichael's wonderful new comedy special, being yourself, the courage of Lia Thomas, why[...]

We turned some knobs in all the right directions before talking about some cool new data on how rest days can improve health and performance, how that relates to burnout and long-term growth, the wild and repeatable science of the placebo effect (featuring a fun study on injecting athletes with fake EPO!), publication bias and[...]

We channeled some SEXY WILDEBEEST vibes before talking about studies from rugby on how positive reinforcement before and after matches improves hormone levels and performance, a new review study on the perils of low-carbohydrate approaches to nutrition, opening up about our secrets, balancing positive mentorship and actionable feedback, bike racing, and a warm-up tip that[...]

We got white hot and passionate before talking about some wildly cool studies on speed training science, how simple training changes can improve performance for most athletes, our questionable move to a caffeine-free lifestyle (nooooooo!), the power of DNFs in racing and in life, movie reviews and recommendations, and the importance of celebrating everything about[...]

We did a public-service announcement on the importance of lubrication (and blew the conch) before talking about the Barkley Marathons and the fascinating definition of talent, elementary school stories and how they play a role throughout life, self-acceptance in the social media age, the uncertain impact of alcohol on protein synthesis, broken treadmills, and lots[...]

We drank some blended lawn clippings FOR HEALTH before talking about why all miles count and there is no such thing as "junk" for the aerobic system, how base building unfolds over longer time horizons, shining your light in a world that can feel so dark at times, how impossible it is to be an[...]

We embraced love and fear before talking about how threshold training looks different for athletes who run on hills, thinking about adapting Norwegian training or other approaches, the principles and logistics of starting coaching (or starting anything!), how injuries change thinking on exercise physiology, biases in how we think about models, Ali Wong, and LOVE.[...]

We PUT ON A SHOW (for ourselves) before talking about the WILDLY COOL training principles behind Nils van Der Poel's gold medals in speed-skating, Clare Gallagher's training (and life force) leading up to the Black Canyon 100k, finding and embracing your voice, a follow-up on Norwegian training principles (particularly for female athletes), performance outliers, the[...]

We brought some of the BIGGEST COOKIE ENERGY before talking about the role of lactate and how that determines adaptations from training intensity, the Norway model of running training, the cool theory of double threshold workouts, the winter Olympics, some thoughts about the Black Canyon 100k, and life history theory applied to low energy availability[...]

We got EXTRA STRENGTH creative juices flowing before talking about a study on how self-talk can influence performance, the connection that emotional state can have to long-term adaptation, recognizing and improving self-talk and why that matters long-term, the best strength exercise (step-ups!) and how to take them to the next level, and how to prevent[...]

We ate performance supplements (cereal and cheese!) before talking about facing fear in an athletic life, ways to reframe pressure, our recent culinary breakthroughs, the importance of preserving your unique voice, death, lessons from the amazing show Cheer, and bringing that "too old, too tired, and too talented" energy for 2022. Full SWAG MODE, ACTIVATE![...]

We got ON A BIKE (slowly) before talking about the wildly fun epigenetic principles behind long-term adaptation, secrets and shame, email interventions, the beautiful cruelty of sports like running, and the importance of putting yourself out there and getting vulnerable. SHOOTERS SHOOT! Thank you all for everything! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all[...]

We took off our grump-suits and put on some sexy swag-suits to talk about the fun science of multi-year changes from a genetic baseline, the coolest twin-study of all time, different protein sources and why they can be adaptation insurance, a poop-doping follow-up, muscle fiber typology and why it matters, and how cookie availability changes[...]

SEXY SCIENCE CORNER! What differentiates athletes late in endurance events like marathons and ultras? Why can some athletes train the same, pace the same, fuel the same--yet have different results? The answer may be found in the emerging study of "fatigue resistance." Fatigue resistance does not have a set definition, but is generally classified as[...]

We PLUCKED our way into 2022 before talking about 6 winter training fundamentals (that apply anytime outside of specific training), the difficulty of motivation (including for us), the tragic Boulder fires, hope in an uncertain world, evolutionary principles of alcohol consumption and dependence, and the wildly exciting science of the microbiome. There will be a[...]

We yelled "HUZZAH!" at the top of all the hills before talking about the nuances of interval recovery approaches, our differing approaches to BUSINESS, offseason yoga, what athletes need to know about the omicron variant, the difficulties of observational studies, and a new study on the menstrual cycle and performance. What a year! We appreciate[...]

We got bib numbers to the 2021 Tour De No Pants before talking about the physiological importance of practicing playfulness in training, an update on the journey with family planning (we are at the fun part!), why walking is trail running, and key principles for thinking about training heading into 2022 (particularly with the distribution[...]

We got our GRUMP SUITS on before talking about long run distances, heart-friendly fun activities (you too can be the naked person in the gym locker room), death anxiety and the power of living boldly, passion, and a hopeful health update. HEART SWAG ACTIVATE. We have gotten so much joy and strength from your messages[...]

We had some life-affirming hospital chicken tenders before talking about the new Olympic Trials standards, sports supplements guidelines and science, and Megan's health journey and diagnosis (WE GOT THIS! Eventually!). We love this community so much, thank you for everything. The biggest heart love going your way! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all[...]

Sexy Science Corner! We dig deep on the studies and training theory of uphill and downhill running to draw some conclusions for how athletes can support long-term growth on all terrain. The big question: what is the best training approach to improve all-around running ability, including on steeps? We call it "the climbing paradox"--focus excessively[...]

We got ACTIVATED by matcha lattes before talking about the cool science of periodization of training cycles, the IOC's new framework for inclusion, the science of supershoes (and which ones are best), competition blinders, understanding pain/discomfort, and supporting confidence in kids and adults. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code[...]

We practiced our OOPS-AND-RALLY before talking about weekly training structure, stacking up itty bitty bricks in a really big wall, side pees, the great science of massage tools, fart buoyancy, the best shoes we have ever worn (and getting scammed trying to buy them), and building confidence by embracing vulnerability. We appreciate you all so[...]

SCIENCE CORNER! A 2021 study had a fascinating finding: in some cases, overtraining may actually be the result of underfueling. We zoom out discuss the incredibly cool scientific landscape on training, fueling, stress, and adaptation, which has big implications for how athletes pursue their long-term potential. THANK YOU! WOOHOO! Subscribe to Trail Runner Magazine for[...]

We embraced bodily fluid gratitude before talking about the nitty gritty of shoe sponsorships, why fueling is helpful even in short events, aging as an athlete (and how that process is relevant for everyone), The Dipsea Race, caring about competition, and our appreciation of Goober the Clown. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU![...]

We practiced recipes for the Some Work, All Pizza cookbook (dog treats for humans?) before talking about extending peak performance over an athletic career, rest days, the relevance of exercise addiction principles for all athletes, embracing imperfection, and how different types of heat training may improve year-round performance. We appreciate you all so much! THANK[...]

We got out our big bowls and big spoons for big gains (protein cereal babyyyy) before talking about the importance of quantity and timing of protein intake, track workouts, the University of Oregon news and why athletic performance is not a math equation, and authenticity in leadership. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU![...]

We gave you all 14/10s before talking about the power of very easy running, dogs and impermanence, dreaming about it...then being about it, the wild science of dopamine, communication and sex, and strength work guidelines. We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We got very, very intimate with a redwood tree before talking about a bunch of lessons from the Boston and Chicago Marathons, the surprising science on heat strain in marathons, coming home, Ted Lasso, mental health and love, and the Stockdale Paradox. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP[...]

We touched the BELIEVE sign before talking about the Tiger Claw race, what the heck is up with trail shoes, uphill and downhill running approach, realistic belief in the context of mentorship, and the power of BELIEVE through the dark forests. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We very sensually licked Dairy Queen cones before talking about long run structure and physiology, muscle breakdown and CK measurements, the problem with models, wedding dancing, and the framework for making big decisions. Plus a new Master Debaters segment! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off all memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap 

We did a sexy science experiment with this bonus episode on how health and adaptation are related across multiple training cycles. Key topics: the nervous and endocrine systems, supercompensation stimuli, overreaching v. overtraining, fatigue resistance, and Lizzo. Lizzo is key! Thank you all! WOOHOO! For more training and outdoor content, go to trailrunnermag.com/outsideplus And enter[...]

We yelled "Woohoo!" until we lost our voices (and maybe podcast listeners) at Run Rabbit Run before talking about exploration of the unknown, having the talent to use your talent, 5 universal ultra training principles, artificial general intelligence and sentience (it gets weird), and Lil Nas X. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for[...]

We banged Charlie the Chipmunk to talk about how longevity is affected by athletics (and how to focus on health in the process), free solo climbing and exploring the limits, sprained ankle prevention, presence in the moment in sports, and why what makes you weird makes you AWESOME. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code[...]

We drank a lot of coffee (Megan) and drank a lot of anxiety (David) to talk about why positive reinforcement is a key coaching strategy, the ups and downs of mental health, social media, adequate fueling for elite performance, and PEDs in a follow-up to the burrito doping case. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo[...]

We made our eyebrows super aerodynamic before talking about ideas for racing, the importance of celebrating yourself, dialogues on pregnancy and BABIES, rallying after low points, and some takeaways about the wild UTMB week. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We mental karate chopped some thoughts before talking about finding your why (and what being a kid has to do with it), the difficulties of science (and how that supports inclusion in sports), and the Leadville 100 (the prophecy!). Plus lots of other things! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships:[...]

We brought some wedding anniversary barnacle swag to talk about five ideas that apply to both running and sex, holding running speed for longer distances, empowering navigation skills, eating entire pizzas, and a special listener corner to end the episode. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We brought some Big Wet Food Energy to talk about race fueling, why it's good to have some imbalances, Molly Freaking Seidel, uphill form, the menstrual cycle and recovery, and fear of death. It's a big one! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We really felt ourselves while talking about fun stories from the 2021 Olympics! (1) Love our bodies; (2) Build the engine; (3) Be an enthusiasm junkie; (4) Elevate friendship alongside competition; (5) Inclusion is the default; (6) Go apes--t for someone; (7) Mental health is health; (8) DUENDE. There's a ninth one in there, but[...]

We drank the whole pot of coffee before talking about why weekly miles can be a weak proxy for training stress, what it means to shoot your shot in life, and answering a question about... mortality. We love our listeners. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We landed like Avengers to talk about the recovery science that has changed our relationship with alcohol, how sex affects athletic performance, and the power of wary optimism. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We went full SWAG GOLDFISH to talk about lessons for adventures, believing in your creative ability, and why aerobic development can involve very easy training (but requires that you also develop your top-end speed/output). Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/SWAP

We channeled Khia's "My Neck, My Back" diagnostic approach to talk about maintaining hope in moments of athletic uncertainty (and Megan's health journey) and why the THC ban hurts athletes. Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off memberships: SWAP join.whoop.com/swap

We rallied from low WHOOP recovery scores to talk about everything we saw and learned at the 2021 Western States 100. Good days are always earned, but bad days can be unlucky. Give your body a chance. And we're in this together. Plus lots more! Thank you all! WOOHOO! WHOOP promo code for 15% off[...]

In our one-year podcast anniversary episode, we talked about amazing stories from the Olympic Trials, the science of why tapers might involve small injuries, and more thoughts on the recent doping news. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

We harnessed our ice-bath F-bombs to talk about the weakly understood importance of fatigue resistance in endurance performance, embracing athletics as a creative process, and being vulnerable. We appreciate you so much, thank you! WOOHOO!

We pranced like show ponies before talking about 5 tips for racing, outlook when things sometimes suck, and improving adaptation/reducing injury risk. Thank you all, we appreciate you so much! WOOHOO!

We embraced our inner magical creatures to talk about heart rate variability and how it might relate to training approaches, the complex illusion of identity, and putting work in a box. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We celebrated the 50th episode (WOOHOO!) by talking about why you don't need to do huge volume in ultra training, self-judgment and uncertainty in life, and lots of bonus topics (SPACE FACTS!). We appreciate you all so much! THANK YOU!

We stocked up on pizza and otter references to talk about the endocrine system impacts of low energy availability, the problem with overthinking, and a bit too much info about otters. We appreciate you all so much, THANK YOU! WOOHOO!

Sports can be the difference between a fully realized identity and feeling alone in the world. Inclusion is about human rights because it is about identity and acceptance for people that have faced marginalization and discrimination. All real-world evidence supports the fairness of inclusion, and future scientific conversations need to be grounded in human rights.[...]

We brought BIG PADDINGTON BEAR ENERGY to the podcast to talk about improving technical running (and dealing with inevitable falling), stress buckets, and moving past regrets in life. You all are amazing! WOOHOO!

We practiced our literal LOL skills while talking about conflict in relationships, performance psychology, and vulnerability in athletic/emotional unfinished products. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We got extremely excited about UFOs (well, David did) before talking about approaching racing season with a celebration mindset, understanding fears/phobias, and balance with sports/life. WOOHOO! Thank you all! 

We put some lubricant in our fanny pack before talking about investing in others, heart rate monitors, chafing, and parenting/leadership. We love you all, thank you! WOOHOO!

We powered up our GPS-free watches and rocked some sweet fanny packs to talk about embracing competition with love, data-free days, and the 1-0 life philosophy. Thank you all! WOOHOO! 

We looked up some fascinating sex outliers (talk about comparison!) before discussing training volume and social media. Plus the answer to life, the universe, and everything! Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We banged our tastebuds before talking about the science of why resets can lead to breakthroughs, considerations for training after vaccine doses, and mass shootings/gun control. If you do not want to hear about the recent tragedies, skip ahead to 10 minutes. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We mastered front crawl kinematics before talking about Coach Diljeet Taylor and leadership style, considerations on the interaction of altitude and heat training, and training group dynamics. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We had LOTS of coffee before talking about body image approaching warmer weather, physical plateaus that can stall progression, and the underrepresentation of women in exercise science studies. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We did some mid-podcast karaoke while talking about a bunch of topics including: unique approaches designed to make training harder, fat adaptation, and the power of the life swerve. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We got COVID antibody tests before talking about why there is no such thing as too easy on easy runs, crying (plus other emotional expressions), and the new "Shoot Your Shot SWAP Playlist." Thank you all! WOOHOO! Playlist link: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0jbx2LsInVAAIhhu6XXLXj?si=105b46ec1de04b80

We grew some sexy ice unibrows before talking about facing fears, aging, communicating affection (and other things), and principles for integrating strength work into endurance training. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

We flipped our microphone right-side-up to talk about building confidence as an athlete, the importance of consistency, and some of our favorite rap lyrics. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

We trialed extreme, accidental acupuncture before talking about identity in life, chasing big goals, and love and kindness meditation. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We fueled with LOTS of mint chocolate chip ice cream to talk about two training sessions in a day and the complications of athletic relationships. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We took a break from our "cheerful tangerine" paint job to talk about a bunch of topics, including how to increase training volume, getting started in writing, and being yourself. Plus this quote: "I had a blast in life, and I hope the same for you." Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We got inspired by badass performances at the Bandera 100k to talk about improving uphill running (and hiking) and the value of loving competition. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

We got inspired by some amazing sports stories (and neighborhood llamas) to talk about finding and embracing what makes you unique and tapering strategy. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

We played our way through talking about 7 big takeaways from 2020! Thank you all for the support on this podcast journey. 2021 here we come! WOOHOO!

We cranked the "Some Work, All Playlist" up to max volume to get hyped to talk about 6 of our favorite workouts, plus superstitions and learning from Boban. We are so thankful for you all, happy holidays! WOOHOO!  Some Work, All Playlist link: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3MM2gTiRZMNKQkje0Vpzpd

We summarize the basic biology and immunology of the COVID-19 vaccine and its potential impact on athletes. Long story short: current research indicates that the vaccine is effective and safe, and we discuss why, along with considerations for training and racing in 2021. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We used sea level oxygen to talk about a bunch of topics including: considerations for running cadence, blood donation's impact on athletic performance, and showing love. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We fueled with lots and lots of hot chocolate to talk about: different approaches to the offseason, how to use training metrics, and 6 gift ideas for athletes. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

To quote Tenacious D: "this one is for the ladies. But fellas, listen closely." We talked about the menstrual cycle, athletic performance, and training approaches. WOOHOO!

We overcame uncontrollably vibrating massage tools to talk about complications in relationships and getting through winter. THANK YOU ALL! WOOHOO!

We are rocking some MAJOR life endorphins to talk about a bunch of topics including: overreaching, overtraining, hope, asking for help, and the COVID-19 vaccine. USA! USA! WOOHOO!

We dealt with a couple podcast DNFs to talk about a bunch of topics, including: theory and practice of speed intervals, thoughts the day before the election, hope, toughness, and big dreams. Thank you all! WOOHOO!

We overcame an uncontrollable urge to laugh at meditation guides to talk about a bunch of topics including: mobility and stretching, supercompensation workouts and weeks, & starting a meditation and mindfulness practice. Thank you all so much! WOOHOO!

We felt lots of gratitude for firefighters as we talked about topics including: optimism to end 2020, Megan's COVID-19 research study results, mental health, and marijuana's impact on athletes. WOOHOO!

We overcame a viral video of a mountain lion to talk about a few topics: tips for balancing athletics and life, lessons from Ted Lasso, and the power of forgiveness. Featuring Addie dog's expert bark opinion! WOOHOO!

We listened to the SWAP SWAGsauce playlist to get hyped to talk about a bunch of topics including: the trial of miles, dealing with rejection, and how to improve technical running. WOOHOO! Playlist link: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1IItgjjXn8276szAjqRZ5H

We enjoyed digging lots of holes while talking about a few topics: deadlines, cultures of excellence, and blood tests/supplementation, focusing on ferritin/iron. WOOHOO!

We embraced super diva watts and the PMS otter to discuss topics including: inspiration from RBG, why setbacks can lead to breakthroughs, and strength training for runners. WOOHOO!

We danced to the "Some Work, All Play" playlist on Spotify to get in the mood to talk about three topics: heart rate training, enthusiasm and support in the work environment, and what it means to train like the elite athlete you are. WOOHOO! Correction: David said "Tim Olson" when he meant "Joe Grant," sorry[...]

We overcame warm protein shakes to talk about 3 topics: muscle fiber typology and training approaches, balancing aerobic base building and speed, and the long-term process of becoming a pro trail runner. WOOHOO!

We ditched our 3-topic structure to focus on mental health and depression. You are enough, and we got this. Woohoo!

We overcame staring at blank pages to talk about 3 topics: air quality and health considerations, alcohol's impact on athletic performance, and the importance of betting on yourself. WOOHOO!

We brought anniversary endorphins into a discussion about 3 topics: fear of wildlife (and other things), getting into coaching, and moving forward with love in the face of suffering (yeah, it was a tough question). WOOHOO!

We overcame weekend bonks to talk about 3 topics: body inclusion/acceptance, fueling during runs, and considerations for a long-term training approach. WOOHOO!

We guzzled some Mountain Dew to talk about 3 topics: cross training reasoning and structure, possible cardiac effects of COVID-19, and toughness v. self-belief. WOOHOO!

We changed the format to 3 topics, because of course we did. Those three topics are: breast size and body image (seriously), overcoming injuries, and coaching. WOOHOO!

We persevered through unironic uses of the word "boondoggle" to talk about 4 topics: aging and performance, long run intensity, training partner dynamics, and procrastination/productivity. WOOHOO!

We overcame our sensitive dispositions to talk about four topics: developing healthier relationships with social media, avoiding within-day energy deficits, why it's OK if you can't sleep, and how to embrace your athletic self no matter where that journey leads. WOOHOO!

We overcame bad hair days/months to talk about 4 topics: the impostor syndrome, the power of strides, why your fitness is your best day, and finding your talent. WOOHOO!

We fueled with Campbell's Chunky Soup for these 5 topics: dealing with uncertainty, certainty in relationships, the importance of rest days, the unimportance of VO2 max, and haters. Woohoo!

We guess we're doing this! Topics: aging, heat and hemoglobin, Hamilton, the power of the shuffle, and self-belief practice. (And waffles)

Welcome to the Some Work, All Play podcast! This may be the only episode. Or not! Adventure time!